adoption debates, yeah that again..
Posted by emilythehopeless on January 9, 2009
..mostly in my head as, fortunately, steve and i agree on everything. as we all know i am beyond convinced that IVF#2 will not work (to the point where i’m still not sure i want to go through with it), so naturally i’m researching the adoption agency we will go to and re-justifing our country choice, because some wavering, mostly on my part, has been occurring. way back when i started researching adoption, we had decided on korea. for lots of reasons: infants available, really good program, foster care, escort to the U.S., etc. BUT.. when you say “infant” in the world of adoption, you mean 6 to 12 months, sometimes older. here is where i start to flipflop to domestic. i mean really, how great would it be to possibly get ultrasound pictures or be at the actual birth?! and a snuggly little newborn.. ahhh…. precious! but that’s about where the positive qualities end for domestic (for us).
it’s well known that i can’t think without lists.. this is limited to the issues that are bothering me most:
korea pros: infants available, really good program, foster care, escort to the U.S., some medical records, predictable wait time, rare failed referrals
korea cons: child could be over 1 year old or close to it, bonding/attachment issues, we can’t submit our dossier until we’ve been married 3 years: october, 21 2010 (soooo annoying since we’ve lived together since may 2004!).. plus, as with any international adoption, the country could close or be put on hold at any time.
domestic pros: teeny, tiny, squooshy newborn, possibility of getting the baby on day one
domestic cons: everything else. the openness (we are only comfortable with very minimal openness, ie: letters through the agency), waiting to be chosen (ie: popularity contest), false starts (ie: when the birthmom changes her mind after referral, one source estimated that one-third of all domestic adoptions fails due to a false start), disruption (when the birthmom changes her mind after placement), plus there are tons of rumors about drug & alcohol abuse by birthmoms in this country (i don’t have stats for this, but even the thought scares me).
mostly the “false start” (nice name for what would essentially feel like a miscarriage) and the “disruption” (nice name for what would feel like the death of a child) are the reasons domestic adoption scares the shit out of both of us. after all that we’ve been through i don’t think i could handle this, because knowing our luck we would have a failed referral.
here’s a pretty chart:

that being said.. we are still concerned with korean adoption because we would essentially be missing out on the first year of our child’s life. … really think about that.. our child could be almost walking, eating solid foods, bonding to his or her foster mother. how much developmentally happens during those first 12 months? we would not be a part of that. the tiny little sneakers we bought at the beginning of our TTC journey wouldn’t fit our baby.
how do i get over this? i know they aren’t tiny little newborns for very long.. but i desperately wanted to experience that time. somehow i need to find peace in this decision.. steve is pretty confident with korean adoption, he joked that the kid would be closer to having cool toys if he or she was already 12 months old! hah! … argh.. i so hate the korean government for invoking the new(ish) law that babies must be up for korean domestic adoption for 6 months, only if no korean family wants the baby he or she can then be up for international adoption. sure, makes sense for them, but not for ME!!
anyway.. this has been in my thoughts lately. a lot. because i truly feel that we will adopt. again, so much so that i don’t really want to bother with IVF#2.. just the thought of it exhausts me. but how can i not go through with it at this point?
8 more pills…














Erin said
Hey Emily! I have seen that chart. My RE actually had it posted in the bathroom on the door. I always thought that was a little weird. I am sorry that I can’t offer any advice on this topic. DH and I knew that adoption wasn’t going to be for us so we never talked much about it. Yey for 8 more pills, I know how much you hate them.
cindyhoo2 said
Tough choices and all your points are accurate. I struggle with all the same issues about adoption. No assvice for you. :0) On a good day, I tell myself that if/when I actually get a child that is “mine,” I won’t care where it came from or how old it is.
A said
It is so much to think about on both sides. So many pros and cons. Wow. A bit overwhelming. You will make the right decision for you. I hope this IVF cycle works for you and you won’t have to worry about anything else.
mama2roo said
Aafter reading this, I sooo want to email you, but don’t want to overstep. Shall I email you with some further information that may (or may not) help in your thinkign things through, or would you rather I not? Let me know! (HUGS!)
Megan Verlander said
Hey Emily–Just reading your blog noticing you guys may do adoption. My sister and her hubby adotped two boys from Guatemala….Jack was almost 2 at the time…and Aidan was 6 months. They adopted two at once…cause they knew they would want two…and didn’t want to go throught the LONG process twice. Anyways…just to reassure you..there have been no bonding issues……they are really great boys…very lucky little boys. If you have any questions about adoption let me know and I will ask my sister.
emilythehopeless said
megan – HI!!!
i would love to adopt from guatemala, however.. all programs there are on hold indefinitely.. lots of governmental issues. sucks.. because the trip there wouldn’t even be that bad. and they used to allow adoptions of infants. sigh.. maybe it will open up again? thanks for the reassurance.. much appreciated!
mama2roo – sure, email me
i know we are on different sides of some adoption issues, but i’m always up for learning more!
m said
You don’t have to go through with IVF#2 at all. but the debate really isn’t between you and Steve or you and the Dr. It’s between non-hormonally charged up Emily and current Emily. She thought it was a good idea to start on this path and she might have had a little less fuzz in her head at the time than you do now.
What are the pros and cons of stopping right now ? Are you out any $ or will you get it back ? This is probably your last chance to work with the Dr. you like so much so that might be a factor too.
But if you really feel that your path to parenthood is adoption then don’t feel like you have to endure more IVF just to get to the prize you want.
Keep venting on line ! it’s great to hear someone thinking out loud what so many of us are thinking quietly.
therapyisexpensive said
Hi I don’t know your whole story, in fact I just happened across this one post. It sounds like you’ve looked at adoption and made the choice that is best for you based on the info you have. I just wanted to put something out there that maybe the agency you’re working with didn’t. In domestic infant adoption there are programs where if you choose you will only be matched with low risk situations (ie not matching until mom has relinquished her rights as opposed to matching while she is still pregnant). I’m not sure where you are located but if DIA is truly something you are interested in you might want to see if any agencies near you would be able to do this.
Also I’m well aware of the drug use stereotype and it is WAY over stated. Do some pregnant women use drugs or drink? Sure, but that is true anywhere and the vast majority of women who I know took wonderful care of themselves and their unborn babies while pregnant.
S. said
i have no words of wisdom (mostly because i am on a similar internal rollercoaster!)
just wanted to offer a (hug)
emilythehopeless said
M – you are right, i was wondering if anyone would pick up on that.. the case of the two emily’s! i honestly don’t know if it’s just the hormones talking, but i REALLY don’t feel like IVF#2 will work. not one bit.
therapyisexpensive – i will definitely check out your suggestion, i don’t know if my agency does that.. but i will ask!! thanks for the suggestion!
thanks S
lucky3101 said
we adopted two girls from romania – one 3-1/2 years old, and the other 2-1/2 years old.
we wanted older children so we could hit the ground running! plus, no diaper changes! lol!
we sent photographs to the foster family so the kids “knew” us by the time we got there.
besides the two adoptions, we have travelled to romania two more times to visit and stay with their amazing foster parents.
my kids are beautiful, happy, healthy, and proud to be adopted!
children are in your future one way or another. create your own wonderfully joyous story!
sprogblogger said
I know what you mean about wanting – nearly needing – to be there for the “baby” part of adopting a baby. But, at the same time, I think most parents would tell you that while the first year of their child’s life was special, it was no more special than any other year of their life together. You’ll make the choice that’s best for you.
Hang in there.
katery said
i don’t know much about the false starts or disruptions, but it definitely sounds like it would be hard. as far as the open adoption part, i have a friend who gave her son up for adoption about 12 years ago. she has what is technically considered an open adoption and pretty much the only contact she has with him is that she sends him presents on his birthday and christmas. his mom also sends her pictures and updates about how he’s doing, and my friend doesn’t want anymore because she knows it would probably be disruptive to his life. of course i know not all situations turn out as well as hers did. i hope everything works out for you two!
starfish diaries said
I’ve never posted before on a complete strangers blog, but I was googling something else adoption related and ran into this. I read your worries about bonding with a 6-12 month year old and your concerns that you would have missed all the ‘baby’ stuff and I just HAD to comment. We have 4 adopted kids (from India & Ethiopia) and they each came to us at very differnet ages. (9 months, 24 months, 13 years) I had similar fears but they were completley unfounded. Babies and toddlers kept in an orphanage are generally far less ‘grown up’ then their peers here in the states would be. Even my 24 month old son came to me very much a snuggalbe, huggable, dependent ‘baby’. I couldn’t possible be more ‘bonded’ to my kids if they had come out of my body. Impossible! They are like a piece of me – inseperable.
Hope you find what works for you! (I highly recommend Dillion International, Holt, AAI, and WACAP if you go international.) God bless!